Support Cache-Control no-cache/private as per RFC2616 ?

Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) rudd-o at
Tue Nov 20 12:30:50 CET 2007

Do you really need to snap at contributors, Dag-Erling?  I happen to agree 
with him in the sense that pulling Varnish (VCL or *not*) in the direction of 
a complete standards-compliant configuration-free smart Web accelerator is a 
very good idea.

The grandfather poster may be a bit misguided as to what standards Varnish 
would need to comply to, but your comment would have easily been more 
constructive if you just had limited yourself to the Edge mention.

And, of course, you are already publicly aware of my position regarding the 

An idea: We need a matrix (OK, a nice table) or a decision tree of what 
actions Varnish should take by default, given a set of requests and content 
of varied freshness degrees.  Once that work is done, moving VCL (and the 
default VCL config) in the direction that will allow us to actually produce 
that decision tree, should be much easier and clearer.

El Mar 20 Nov 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav escribió:
> "BUSTARRET, Jean-francois" <jfbustarret at> writes:
> > Yet says "Varnish was
> > written from the ground up to be a high performance caching reverse
> > proxy." Varnish is a cache, and should follow HTTP/1.1 RFCs.
> Excuse me, but who are you to tell us what Varnish is or is not?  Do
> you realize how arrogant that is?
> That aside, you are trying to fit Varnish into an RFC2616 pigeonhole,
> but there is no pigeonhole that fits - RFC2616 did not anticipate
> anything like Varnish.  There is a draft W3 specification, the Edge
> Architecture Specification, which attempts to fill that hole, but it
> is not widely known, so I'm not sure it would help much to write that
> Varnish is an HTTP surrogate rather than an HTTP accelerator (I try to
> avoid the term "reverse proxy").


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