name changes for the upcoming 4.0

Kacper Wysocki kacperw at
Mon Dec 5 18:05:55 CET 2011

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at> wrote:
> In message <4EDCD616.9090003 at>, Geoff Simmons writes:
>>Per's point being, I think, that however appropriate the name sounds
>>once you've understood it, it's not possible to understand it in the
>>first place without consulting the docs.
> And the disadvantage of that would be ?   :-)

not altogether apparent...
presumably you would have to consult the docs regardless.

>> On the other hand, it's not at all clear that renaming "grace" to
>> something like "serve_when_stale_if_ ..." and so forth makes Varnish any
>> easier.

I am pretty sure it wouldn't, and has the (big imho) impact of
breaking all previous scripts for dubious gains. It is true, both
grace and saint are rather opaque concepts, but that doesn't mean we
should map them to squid's rather opaque and verbose concepts, over
for example akamai's terminology.


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