From ewasser at maxcluster.de  Wed Sep  4 13:40:24 2019
From: ewasser at maxcluster.de (Erik Wasser)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:40:24 +0200
Subject: LTS time frame for Varnish 6.0.X?
Message-ID: <8537435a-79b6-e3e6-8166-4d1c9f3d5af1@maxcluster.de>

Hello varnish-dist at varnish-cache.org,

I've read the posting "Varnish Cache 6.0.2 LTS released" 
(https://varnish-cache.org/lists/pipermail/varnish-announce/2018-November/000731.html) 
from Dridi Boukelmoune and I'm asking myself about the time frame of the 
announced LTS version. How long will Varnish 6.0 be supported?

I've searched at Google but I've found nothing at all, so I'm dropping 
my question here:

How long do you want to support Varnish 6.0 (for Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic if 
this matters). The background ist: should user that are affected
by "VSV00003 DoS attack vector" 
(https://varnish-cache.org/security/VSV00003.html) upgrade to 6.2 or 
downgrade to the LTS version 6.0?

Thanks for listening.

-- 
Greetings
Erik Wasser


From hermunn at varnish-software.com  Wed Sep  4 14:36:46 2019
From: hermunn at varnish-software.com (=?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A5l_Hermunn_Johansen?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:36:46 +0200
Subject: LTS time frame for Varnish 6.0.X?
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Hello,

ons. 4. sep. 2019 kl. 15:40 skrev Erik Wasser <ewasser at maxcluster.de>:
> I've read the posting "Varnish Cache 6.0.2 LTS released"
> (https://varnish-cache.org/lists/pipermail/varnish-announce/2018-November/000731.html)
> from Dridi Boukelmoune and I'm asking myself about the time frame of the
> announced LTS version. How long will Varnish 6.0 be supported?

The 6.0 LTS will be supported for a while after the next LTS is
announced. I can't find an official number, but I am pretty confident
that the overlap will be at least six months.

> should user that are affected by "VSV00003 DoS attack vector"
> (https://varnish-cache.org/security/VSV00003.html) upgrade to 6.2 or
> downgrade to the LTS version 6.0?

I would, without a doubt, switch to 6.0. By now, the current 6.0 is
just as new as 6.1 and maybe also 6.2, with all the back ports which
have been done. We will also continue to back port fixes, and even
some features, to 6.0.

Are there any fetures in 6.2 or master that you need? Are there any
problems with 6.0, that you run into?

Best,
P?l Hermunn Johansen

From ewasser at maxcluster.de  Thu Sep  5 07:52:25 2019
From: ewasser at maxcluster.de (Erik Wasser)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:52:25 +0200
Subject: LTS time frame for Varnish 6.0.X?
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Message-ID: <c0ada191-7861-a133-7fa7-5977371a98fe@maxcluster.de>

On 04.09.19 16:36, P?l Hermunn Johansen wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> ons. 4. sep. 2019 kl. 15:40 skrev Erik Wasser <ewasser at maxcluster.de>:
>> I've read the posting "Varnish Cache 6.0.2 LTS released"
>> (https://varnish-cache.org/lists/pipermail/varnish-announce/2018-November/000731.html)
>> from Dridi Boukelmoune and I'm asking myself about the time frame of the
>> announced LTS version. How long will Varnish 6.0 be supported?
> 
> The 6.0 LTS will be supported for a while after the next LTS is
> announced. I can't find an official number, but I am pretty confident
> that the overlap will be at least six months.

Thanks for the info. Good to know that about the release cyclus.

> I would, without a doubt, switch to 6.0. By now, the current 6.0 is
> just as new as 6.1 and maybe also 6.2, with all the back ports which
> have been done. We will also continue to back port fixes, and even
> some features, to 6.0.
> 
> Are there any fetures in 6.2 or master that you need? Are there any
> problems with 6.0, that you run into?

My clients are LTS orientated, not feature orientated. They're 
interested more in a long term solution ("we can use Varnish in Version 
X for Y years") than looking for a specific feature ("we need feature A 
from Version B").

Currently I'm not aware of any problems with 6.0 or 6.2 so I can choose 
between them. And that brought my to my inital question of the LTS 
support of 6.0. I think we switch to Varnish 6.0 to avoid VSV00003.

Thank you for your support.

-- 
Viele Gr??e,
Erik Wasser